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[TastinGood]

What makes you think that this wasnt serious?

[Hannibal]

Well I'm serious god damnit!

[Alex]

Choice C. Start a war with Irag and send the 600 who might die anyway.

[SHATOUSHKA]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#25004f"><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">Originally posted by GravyTrain:
So shatzy, you are going to tell me that this is a riddle or a logical equation?</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

what started as a riddle (from another board)
has been turned into a logical/ethical equation for this board.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#25004f"><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">It sounds to me that this is an issue of humanitarian acts. 1) DO we want to risk the chance of killing everyone, or 2) do we want to guarantee that some of the people will be saved. </font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

those are the same scenarios, only said differently

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#25004f"><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">If i am to make a reasonable decision concerning this issue. I must have the previously requested information.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

wrong.
all you need to know is what is laid out before you.
there is nothing more to imply.
implication leads to hesitation.
you will never fully know all possibles from
any scenario, no matter how you try.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#25004f"><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma"> If this is a riddle or some sort of logic game, I do not want to have anything to do with this because i thought that this board was more intellectual. If I wanted to play games with riddles I would visit *link edited due to administrative payback*

(ok, i just wanted to advertise jizz nasty on this board)and actually i enjoy riddles, but i was fooled into thinking this was serious.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

it is serious.
if you wanna insult the post and think that it
will manipulate me into giving more information
than is there... that won't happen, i'm afraid.

however, i will humor your questions and answer them... so that you, and everyone else can see
why its best to not ask for more than you are given.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#25004f"><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">1. What are the probabilities based on?</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

probability rests on the sole notion that all
things are possible, yet nothing is predictable.
in a sense -- statistical data. probability is
set in 'chance'... which could easily be deduced
to 'nil'... since 'chance' is essentially 'nil'.
if you would like to argue this point, may i
first direct your attention to william james's
essay THE DILEMMA OF DETERMINISM and THE WILL TO BELIEVE.
here are some links:

the delimma of determinism--text
the delimma of determinism--insights
the will to believe--text
the will to believe--insights

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#25004f"><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">2. You say that the disease is expected to kill 600 people, is this an exact number, or is this just a rough estimate (and how rough)</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

estimates should always be considered for what they are.
in this case, its safest to assume that 600 is
the middle ground for any and all truth consequences.
most truth consequences are carried out based
upon tagedy rating... or surprise technique.

that is, zero could be harmed, or 1200....
and since 600 is the middle term, its safe to
see that if nothing were to prevent the disease,
and a number less than 600 were killed, it would
be an applauded event. however, if 1200 were
killed, it would serve to be a tragedy. if
600 were killed, nothing new is added to the scenario.

would a fairer question be:
does the 600 number consume ALL of my populus?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#25004f"><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">3. What type of people will this be effecting, ie, middle class, criminals, children, etc.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

only the humans with a sense of touch can be effected.
(i.e.-- all)

now....
answer the Q. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[Alex]

I say adopt both programs.

[GravyTrain]

Well, I didnt' realize that I was going to have to read and really thing for this thread. In all honesty, I have been shown my place in the grand scheme of deductive reasoning. That being the place saved usually for TastinGood. [img]tongue.gif[/img] and unfortunately I have no response for that. I will however answer the question.

This will be a response not using the extra information that I requested. (and no, i did not read those essays, simply because I hate to read.)

I would choose Plan A, especially if i were in the position of a politician or some high ranking official. This would of course be taking the safe way out, but I feel it would result in the least amount of the feedback from the general population.

Plan B would be an excellent choice if we were not talking about something as important and valuable as a human life. I don't agree with gambling, and I would assume most people don't agree with gambling with human life. (russian roulette anyone?)

well, there is my answer.